Podcast 224 — How men can be an ally to women

When it comes to gender parity, we've made progress but have some way to go. Our guests on today's show believe it's not just up to women to make it happen: men need to get involved.

Written by Gemma Towersey
Published 08 December 2020
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Podcast 224 — How men can be an ally to women

This week on the show, authors of Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace, Brad W. Johnson and David Smith, join Gemma and Ross G to talk about practical ways men can hurry along gender equality by becoming allies for women. 

We discuss:

  • what it means to be a male ally
  • challenges in being a male ally
  • what effect male allies might have.

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Find out more about Brad and David's research by visiting their website: https://www.workplaceallies.com/

You can buy the book Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace from any bookstore.

In our What I Learnt This Week feature, David spoke about his niece's allergy to exercise. You can read about this condition in this "Allergic to exercise?" article from NBC News: nbcnews.com/healthmain/allergic-exercise-1C9926288 

Brad gave us an example of a man being an ally to a woman in Doug Emhoff. This BBC article tells Doug's story, "Doug Emhoff: The first 'second dude' in the White House". Access it here: bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54899230 

Ross gave a shout out to The Crown: a series about the British Royal family on Netflix. You can find the episodes here: netflix.com/gb/title/80025678 

Gemma talked about some of the unique features of Stonehenge. Her information came from the BBC Podcast "You're Dead to Me - Stonehenge". You can listen to it here: bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08zqq6y

Brad W. Johnson

Brad W. Johnson

Professor, U.S. Naval Academy & Faculty Associate, Johns Hopkins University

Brad W. Johnson is Professor of psychology in the Department of Leadership, Ethics and Law at the United States Naval Academy, and a Faculty Associate in the Graduate School of Education at Johns Hopkins University.

Dr. Johnson is the author of numerous publications including 14 books, in the areas of gender in the workplace, mentoring, cross-gender allyship, professional ethics, and counseling.
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David Smith

David Smith

Associate Professor Of Sociology at Naval War College

David G. Smith is an Associate Professor of Sociology at the US Naval War College; a gender, work and family researcher; author and speaker.

Through his research and experience leading diverse organizations, he has established his value to organizations looking to improve gender relations. Dr. Smith is known for facilitating challenging topics about gender relations and brings this skill to his consulting, writing, and speaking.
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Gemma Towersey

Gemma Towersey

Learning Experience Manager, Emerald Works

Gemma is a learning designer and workplace coach, out to help people and organisations across the world make positive changes. She works with clients across the globe to design creative, enjoyable training that meets organisational goals. She enjoys bringing love of learning, stories and people together for exciting results.
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Ross Garner

Ross Garner

Head of Learning Experience, Emerald Works

Ross has been working in L&D for seven years and he heads up the instructional design team at Emerald Works. In 2019 he completed a Masters in Digital Education and was named Learning Technologies’ Learning Designer of the Year. He is also one of the hosts of the GoodPractice Podcast.
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Gemma Towersey

Gemma Towersey

Learning Experience Manager, Emerald Works
Gemma is a learning designer and workplace coach, out to help people and organisations across the world make positive changes. She works with clients across the globe to design creative, enjoyable training that meets organisational goals. She enjoys bringing love of learning, stories and people together for exciting results.

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