Podcast 231 — Should we defund HR?

Does your HR team add value to your organisation? Has HR spend spiralled out of control? Does HR's willingness to become the mouthpiece of bad news let leaders off the hook?

Written by Ross Garner
Published 09 February 2021
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Podcast 231 — Should we defund HR?
In this week's episode of The Good Practice Podcast, Laurie Ruettimann - host of the Punk Rock HR podcast - joins Ross G and Owen to discuss.

We're trying something new! Join us on Clubhouse this Thursday, February 11, at 3pm, if you want to share your thoughts on this topic: joinclubhouse.com/event/P96q3g2e

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You can find out more about Laurie, her podcast and her book, at: laurieruettimann.com. She also discusses defunding HR on YouTube (youtube.com/watch?v=c43dvTLYbYo) and how this idea relates to 'defund the police' in episode 121 of her podcast (laurieruettimann.com/punkrockhr-121/).

In What I Learned This Week, Owen spoke about employee engagement. The CIPD's report 'Employee Engagement: Definitions, measures and outcomes' is available at: cipd.co.uk/Images/employee-engagement-discussion-report_tcm18-89598.pdf. And the article from Forbes was 'In Defense of Unmotivated Workers', online at: forbes.com/sites/tomaspremuzic/2021/01/19/in-defense-of-unmotivated-workers/?sh=7436e0ea21a3.

Ross discussed a worrying trend in reviews of scented candles: washingtonpost.com/business/2020/12/01/covid-scented-candle-reviews/  

Laurie Reuttimann

Laurie Reuttimann

Writer, speaker and podcast host

Laurie Ruettimann is a former human resources leader turned writer, entrepreneur, and speaker. She frequently delivers keynote speeches at business and management events around the world and hosts a popular podcast focused on fixing work called the "Punk Rock HR podcast".
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Owen Ferguson

Owen Ferguson

Product and Technology Director, Emerald Works

A self-confessed nerd, Owen is passionate about taking an evidence-led approach to developing digital products that solve real-world problems. He is also a regular on our weekly podcast.
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Ross Garner

Ross Garner

Head of Learning Experience, Emerald Works

Ross has been working in L&D for seven years and he heads up the instructional design team at Emerald Works. In 2019 he completed a Masters in Digital Education and was named Learning Technologies’ Learning Designer of the Year. He is also one of the hosts of the GoodPractice Podcast.
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Ross Garner

Ross Garner

Head of Learning Experience
Ross has been working in L&D for seven years and he heads up the instructional design team at Emerald Works. In 2019 he completed a Masters in Digital Education and was named Learning Technologies’ Learning Designer of the Year. He is also one of the hosts of the Good Practice Podcast.

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