Podcast 240 — The GP Book Club: Humanocracy

This week on The Good Practice Podcast, we're removing power dynamics and stripping away management layers with the return of our book club.

Written by Ross Garner
Published 13 April 2021
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Podcast 240 — The GP Book Club: Humanocracy

Emerald Works CEO John Yates and Emerald Publishing CEO Vicky Williams join Ross Garner and Owen to discuss Humanocracy, by Gary Hamel and Michele Zanini.

We discuss:

  • The challenge the book presents to bureaucracy
  • A human-centred approach to organisation design
  • The difficulty of putting humanocracy into practice.

Humanocracy is available now from all good bookshops.

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Vicky referenced the book How to Lead a Quest, by Jason Fox.

Ross referenced episode 231 — Should we defund HR? You can find it online (emeraldworks.com/resources/podcast/231-should-we-defund-hr) or in your podcast feed.

For more on the emergence of hierarchies at Wikipedia, see: Lerner, J., & Lomi, A. (2017). The third man: Hierarchy formation in Wikipedia. Applied network science2(1), 1-30.

Owen Ferguson

Owen Ferguson

Product and Technology Director, Emerald Works

A self-confessed nerd, Owen is passionate about taking an evidence-led approach to developing digital products that solve real-world problems. He is also a regular on our weekly podcast.
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Ross Garner

Ross Garner

Head of Learning Experience, Emerald Works

Ross has been working in L&D for seven years and he heads up the instructional design team at Emerald Works. In 2019 he completed a Masters in Digital Education and was named Learning Technologies’ Learning Designer of the Year. He is also one of the hosts of the GoodPractice Podcast.
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Vicky Williams

Vicky Williams

CEO, Emerald Publishing

Vicky has held a variety of senior roles during her time at Emerald, including Head of Publishing Development, Director of Business Development, Group Director of People (HR) and CEO of Emerald’s creative agency business, Research Media.
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John Yates

John Yates

CEO, Emerald Works

John's board-level experience across a range of education businesses, from start-up to publicly-listed multinational, has given him deep insights into the common and unique needs of employer, employee and student; and the positive impacts on the performance of these customers that great teams, learning experiences, content and technology can bring, if focused under a clear strategy and commitment to change.
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Ross Garner

Ross Garner

Head of Learning Experience
Ross has been working in L&D for seven years and he heads up the instructional design team at Emerald Works. In 2019 he completed a Masters in Digital Education and was named Learning Technologies’ Learning Designer of the Year. He is also one of the hosts of the Good Practice Podcast.

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